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Look like coins to me

Mystery objects.
Steven may reject this as not being specific to Orkney, but these objects were fully as important here as anywhere else. What exactly are they?
Photo taken yesterday but the objects are a little older.
Picture added on 26 April 2010 at 20:56
Are they pre 1917 Sovereigns? A fine collection by the way.
Added by Grant Leonard on 26 April 2010
Wonder if they could be farthings? Maybe buttons for tunic?
Added by Jack on 27 April 2010
That's a pretty good start Steven, but I was hoping for something a little more exact.
Added by Ian Hourston on 27 April 2010
I used to be a bit of a numismatist (coin collector!) - they look like sovereigns to me but certainly gold I reckon. The denomination would depend on their size.
Added by Ian M Gibson on 27 April 2010
Well they certainly look like gold sovereigns, Queen Victoria from about 1880, Edward VII and George V. (Worth about £190 each at the moment with the sky-high gold price if that is really what they are) I suspect from cryptic comments above that they might be replicas though, no idea what the reason would be, nor what the connection to Orkney is.
Added by Jim Eunson on 28 April 2010
I used to be more of a pneumismatist (blower-up of car tyres) Ian, but you are right. Unfortunately they are only half-sovereigns, from the reigns of Victoria, Edward VII & George V. A shot of the reverse sides would probably have given the game away.
Added by Ian Hourston on 28 April 2010
If gold, they are sovereigns, that on the left has the "young head" of Queen Victoria and with that inscription was minted between 1871 and 1885; the middle one, Edward VII, minted 1902 to 1910; the third one George V, 1911 to 1917 and 1925. According to the book I got this info from, if the George V one is dated 1917, it is worth thousands (but the book warns that "crude forgeries exist")!
Added by Paul Sutherland on 28 April 2010
Thanks for the comment Paul. Does your book say anything about half-sovereigns?
Added by Ian Hourston on 29 April 2010
Are you sure they are only half sovereigns? The book seems to say that the inscription on the left-hand one was only found on the full sovereign with that head, but maybe I'm misreading it. The easy way to check is that the full sovereign is the same diameter as the modern pound coin.
Added by Paul Sutherland on 30 April 2010
It's still a fine collection. I don't suppose you have the next one in sequence?
Added by Grant Leonard on 02 May 2010
The Victorian Sovereign series is pretty complex and their was a shorter legend on earlier issues. Anyway Sovereigns are 22mm in diameter and Half Sovereigns are 19mm - so get measuring!
Added by Ian M Gibson on 03 May 2010
Paul, if what you say about the sovereign having the same diameter as the modern pound coin is true (and why would you lie?) then they would appear to be full sovereigns right enough. I'll post another shot as evidence. But for most of my life I've believed them to be half-sovereigns.
Added by Ian Hourston on 03 May 2010
I got measuring Ian, and they're sovereigns. I'm twice as wealthy as I thought. Nice one!
Added by Ian Hourston on 04 May 2010
Forgot to answer Grant Leonard's question. You are correct, Grant, in not supposing I have the next in sequence. As I'm sure you know, sovereigns for general circulation weren't minted in George VI's reign. However, I hope shortly to have one from our present monarch's reign. (It's amazing how much more interesting these coins have become now that I know they're full sovereigns.)
Added by Ian Hourston on 06 May 2010
For the sake of completeness, I'll post an image of all four sovereigns, if Steven will accept it.
Added by Ian Hourston on 30 June 2010
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